At 19:59:06 on 28.02.10, JessAndGrenville123 wrote:
Omg i LOVE this. I want to raise awareness of this amazing natural horsemanship. In my opinion it beats parrelli, monty roberts and everything else! Check it out it is an amazing way to train, no bit, no spurs. It is amazing!!!
At 20:04:28 on 28.02.10, JessAndGrenville123 wrote:
more vids, sorry i am obsessed!
At 15:50:07 on 01.03.10, plodalong wrote:
does he have any vids that show his training methods? what we see here is the finished product, are you sure he doesnt use bits or spurs in the training process.it looks wonderful,but im not sure that i want my horse cavorting .striking and bucking with his ears pinned back around me in a confined space, it looks a bit aggressive to me,I didnt notice a pat or any physical praise for the horse,i may be wrong he could have been using vocal praise that the horse understood.
At 17:30:15 on 01.03.10, Flicka wrote:
Hi, I've just looked at his website-proves interesting reading, especially his biography!! Plodalong he says that he likes to work with "hot" horses and unlike natural horsemanship which he claims is about relaxing the horse and reducing it's natural spirit he seeks to inspire and awaken the horses interest and reveal it's full natural potential-roughly his words! And he says some pretty controversial things about Monty Roberts and Parelli. He doesn't use bits though. Worth taking a look. http://www.hauteecole.ru/en/nevzorov_haute_ecole.php?sid=0&id=85
At 18:58:31 on 01.03.10, plodalong wrote:
thanks Flicka i will have a look.
At 19:15:11 on 01.03.10, plodalong wrote:
i nsee what you mean Flicka, he really doesnt have anything nice to say about Monty Roberts, and i am a parelli fan as you know but i dont understand why he uses bits and spurs,As for the rope hackamore ,like everything else it depends on the hands on the reins as to how much pressur is put onto the nose, The parelli programme teaches people to be light and not to use two reins only one at a time it also teaches us to use prepatory commands so our horse has a signal as to what is coming next Im talking about bending to a stop ,a horse doesnt have to be pulled to bend, the prepatory sliding of the hand down the rein will be enough to let the horse know what is about to happen, i have done this with Bo in an emergency on two occasions when i thought we were in danger of getting hurt and both times Bo responded and i was able to execute an emergency dismount.Nevzorov does do a good job but i still wouldnt want to follow his way, It wouldnt suit me or my horse, i quite like the fact that bo is feeling relaxed when i ride him.Some people would love to work and play with "hot" horses,but its not for me.
At 20:21:17 on 01.03.10, JessAndGrenville123 wrote:
Yes he doesn't agree with bits which is why he doesn't agree with monty and parelli. I agree with join up by monty but that is about it. Also i disagree with parelli - those methods made my horses problems worse however removing the bit and replacing it with a neck strap made him lots happier even though i do use a snaffle when we hack out :). And about the galloping about thing he was playing. I do it with my horse all the time he loves it. I race him around the school and lunge pen (he always wins) and at the end he is following me along and prancing with his ears up it is amazing what understanding your horse can do (without use of force or tack) it is like going back to basics when horses and people were one.
At 22:14:06 on 01.03.10, JessAndGrenville123 wrote:
Found a video that sort of explains it.
At 22:26:57 on 01.03.10, NMH wrote:
Beautiful to watch! (though not so sure about the Spanish trot or the sideways hopping from leg to leg which seem more unnatural). Striking to me how well engaged the horses' hind legs are. Whole new meaning to bitless dressage, lol!! lovely pic in that last vid of a chestnut, ridden, "on the bit" (note, never behind the vertical!) but with no bit! after all, maybe "on the bit" is a description of working correctly with all the "scales of training" correct, submission, relaxation, engagement, throughness, durchlassigkeit, losgelassenheit & all that (see about scales of training, in Dressage Wannabees group I think it is)
